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(Note: Sorry but I must have lost part of this interview, and parts are too muffled for me to understand. What I have begins with Susan talking about playing in Las Vegas.)
Susan: Back in those days you did two or more concerts with a little intermission and I can remember being dog tired. You know it usually started at eight and it Ö it Ö it varied and we traveled (canít understand) I had a poodle, much to my brothers dismay.
Bob: Why did your brother not like the poodle?
Susan: They ALL didnít like him because he was a POODLE.
Bob: Because it was spoiled.
Susan: Thatís not a dog. I think the fact that I treated it like a baby and it ate in a high-chair and slept in a bassinet was part of it.
Bob: Whoa whoa whoa Stop right there. Hold it no no no
Susan: (laughs) And my mother and I bought it baby clothes.
Bob: It ate in a high-chair?
Susan: Yeah (laughs) That was great too. Anyway it would come on the road with me and we made a pit-stop somewhere and he got out and a while later I noticed he was gone and I was ďOh GodĒ (canít understand) and we launched this radio campaign to find him. We had gotten out and there was a steak house next to the gas station there (canít understand) And when we got him back he was all clipped with a bow in his head.
Bob: In a new high-chair and a tutu I think itís funny but
Susan: It was
Bob: I bet the dog was the catalyst for a few debates in the car or van or whatever
Susan: Oh God they couldnít stand it.
Bob: What was your dogís name?
Susan: His name was Sueba
Susan: It was my motherís Ė weíd always wanted a poodle, Mom and I, and (canít understand) actually got me the poodle. For my mother, my motherís name was Barbara and Iím Susan so it was Sueba
Bob: The spoiled poodle, who wore baby clothes and ate off a high-chair OK Thank you for calling Susan, itís been a pleasure - no Iím joking. Thatís got to be a (canít understand) story. Now we come to the point in your career when you guys are kindof going your own ways, right?
Bob: Youíre writing songs and the brothers and your Mom and your Dad. There comes a point when you realize The Cowsills are not doing what they Ė well theyíre not as popular as they were two or three years ago. What do you do at that point?
Susan: Well at that point I was only Ė what twelve, eleven or twelve Ė twelve. Eight, nine, ten, eleven and twelve Ė yeah. And what happen after that is (canít understand) go there separate ways and Barry and John were almost old enough to be on their own and I, and my mother and father, moved back to Rhode Island. This must have been in í72 and it was kind of Ė it became what I guess what was deemed as a normal life. They tried to put me in school until (canít understand)
Bob: (chuckles) After youíve been on tour most of your life
Susan: Yeah, and that just wasnít working for me at all. We moved back to Rhode Island, like I said, and I had gotten pretty (canít understand) become my own for those years and I wasnít very happy about moving back to Rhode Island. So by the time I was in about the ninth grade I became pretty much became an emancipated minor and I moved in with my brother Paul and when I was sixteen I told my Mom if I finished ninth grade if sheíd let me quit after that just to prove to her that I wasnít a dumby and that, you know, I could make it in this world without an education. Because I did understand everything that I needed to know. And she kind of (canít understand) ďWhat are you planning to do? Are you going to sit around and watch TV or what?Ē And I just told her no and that I was going to go do really the only thing I knew how to do and I was going to get a record deal and make records, at sixteen. And I did. I got a single deal on Warner Brothers Records Ė singles you know Ė 45s Ė if people who are listening donít know what Iím talking about. And it was pitiful. I mean, you know, my brother Bob is very kind and says - I did a cover of ďIt Might As Well Rain Until SeptemberĒ by Carole King. I did ďMohammadís RadioĒ by Warren Zevon.
Bob: You know thereís probably eight people in the audience that knows that song
Susan: I know it. I know it. (canít understand) I did I think cut four or five and didnít get the (canít understand) on time. I really was doing the only thing I knew how to do. And we got the band back together for first time I think it was in í78. And we were together for maybe (canít understand) for recording done at that time. I went on with my life. I got a boyfriend and did that for awhile and (canít understand)
Bob: What does that mean?
Susan: (canít understand) a long while that I had that boyfriend. I wasnít doing very much with my music at that time so when I got un-girlfriended the I Ė thatís when I started coming into my own as a musician and an artist. And met up with a group of musicians in Los Angeles called The Continental Drifters. That was actually Ė weíre talking 1987, í88, í89 when I actually first started playing an instrument. I didnít play anything until then. Except that God forsaken tambourine.
Bob: (chuckles) The tambourine didnít do anything to ya.
Susan: No, no it didnít.
Bob: (canít understand) never said a word back to ya.
Susan: No So thatís when I started playing guitar and writing.
Bob: So now youíre on your own and (canít understand) When youíre in the industry, itís kind of a given, within the industry, that The Partridge Family was kind of based on The Cowsills pattern, the family traveling around and singing. And last week we had Marty Ingels and Shirley Jones on this show and I understand there was a benefit concert that you guys did where Shirley and Marty appeared.
Susan: Thatís right
Bob: And she made some comments about The Partridge Family. Share those with us will you
Susan: Sure, Iíd love to cuz that was quite wonderfully sweet. (canít understand) We did a benefit for him in Los Angeles a couple of years ago to raise money because he wasnít able to work so we had a benefit for him. And Shirley Jones and Marty - and Shirley came and did the benefit for us. Now we had never met Shirley Jones. Isnít that so strange?
Bob: Isnít she a doll
Susan: Oh my God. And whatís really strange is that the year my mother passed away (canít understand) Iím not kidding, I had a dream that Shirley Jones adopted me.
Bob: Good Lord
Susan: She adopted me. It was so good and she was so sweet. I mean, you know, itís not a far stretch, I mean sheís our virtual mother. And so she agreed to come do this thing for us and she was just amazing and she opened up the whole show with a lengthy speech about The Cowsills and how there wouldnít have been any Partridges without and she wouldnít have had her career rekindled and in such a modern and pop fashion. And (canít understand) acknowledgement and it was great to be together and sheís such a sweetie pie and I tell you what, she called my brother Bob a couple weeks ago and she called, got a message from her and said, ďBob, this is Shirley and I was just calling to see how you kids are doing and I heard about yaíll going through and I hope youíre doing OK.Ē
Bob: Isnít that neat. Thatís so cool
Susan: I know it. Now sheís our foster mother.
Bob: Now thatís great. You know Ė just kind of deviate from the subject at hand for a second. They got a park up in Big Bear, Fawnís (canít understand) called Fawn Park and itís dedicated to the people who perished on 9/11. And so Marty and I and our manager are colaberating on putting together a benefit concert to raise money to complete this park. And itís not a private park. Itís privately owned, but itís open to the public. And itís beautiful. Itís got picnic tables. Itís got statues of the fireman.
Bob: Itís even got a piece of 9/11 about Ė some of the wreckage in the middle of the park.
Susan: That is so cool.
Bob: And we want to put together Ė weíre going to put together a concert, benefit concert to complete the park and
Susan: Call on us. Weíre always available. You know The Cowsills are a functional band as well, as is ours. Either my band, or my other band, or both my bands a call, Bob.
Bob: I talked to your publicist this afternoon about it and she raised that issue and we certainly will.
Susan: I hope you will
Bob: And now, getting back to Susan Cowsill. We come to Susaní Cowsillís Just Believe It CD. This is so cool. I tell you. Is it on the stands now? Can we go to Best Buy and get it? Can we go to Virgin and Tower?
Susan: Iím pretty sure. (canít understand) I do know that it was picked up nationally just recently and Tower Records and I believe Best Buy now so yes it is my first solo record . Debutante at 47 years old/
Bob: A debutant- tee Hey we got a debutante on the show. Anyway, I want to play a cut from this and I listened to the whole thing but this cut just really blew me away. Itís the title cut. Itís Susan Cowsillís. Itís called "Just Believe It". And by the way, I like your pictures on it. I love the cowboy hat.
Susan: (canít understand)
Bob: (canít understand) I did. You look like youíre up to something in that picture.
Susan: Thatís probably because I was. (canít understand)
Bob: Well letís listen to "Just Believe It", OK? This is a dynamite song from Susan Cowsill. Itís the title cut from her CD Just Believe It.
Song: Just Believe It
(Note: I lost the rest of this interview)